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Subject: On A Dark Night

From: ejLight@Light-Mission.org (E.J.)

Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 19:19:15 GMT

Greetings Community,

A little something to brake the Silence:

"In order to have pleasure in everything Desire to have pleasure in nothing. In order to arrive at possessing everything Desire to possess nothing. In order to arrive at being everything Desire to be nothing. In order to arrive at knowing everything Desire to know nothing. In order to arrive at that wherein thou hast no pleasure Thou must go by a way in which thou hast no pleasure. In order to arrive at that which thou knowest not Thou must go by a way that thou knowest not. In order to arrive at that which thou possesseth not Thou must go by a way that thou possesseth not. In order to arrive at that which thou art not Thou must go through that which thou art not. -- St. John of the Cross

Subject: The illusion

From: Sharlene <Sharlene@Light-Mission.org>

Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 07:07:58 -0700

Good morning community,

Just sharing my morning thoughts, yes, you are in trouble : ) The question was raised, who am I.....Wrong thing to ask lol. Got me to thinkin'

I am an illusion. what ones sees, is not who I am. What ones hears, is not who I am. What one feels, is not who I am. when the body dies, the voice dies, the eyes die,when the mind dies, have I ever existed other than as a memory? Does one grieve for the memory, for the body, or the mind?

Although I will no longer exist in the physical, the energy lingers on. What am I other than illusion?

I am the wind that blows the clouds, I am the breeze that flutters the leaves, I am the storm that creates the heavy seas. I am the air you breathe. I am prana..

I am the warmth from the sun. I am the fire that warms you on the cold. I am the fire that sweeps through the forest cleaning and allowing new growth. I am the fire within you that fights the conditioning to free a chained soul. .

I am the water that flows in the river. I am the rain that falls gently feeding the plants that provides what you need your body. I am the storm that rages across the world sending the message that there no such thing as permanence. I am the water that cleans your body and mind. Listen the rippling of the pond and stream, gently soothing your mind. Always changing, always caressing everything I touch.

I am the earth. The ground beneath your feet. take your shoes off, walk on me, feel the coolness through your body. Plant your feet within me and allow the soul to fly with me. I am the earth that houses the roots of all that exist. I am the Mother that nurtures, soothes, and protects you. I am the base beneath the concrete, the pavement and the steel, waiting to be reborn.

I am no-thing, I am all that exists. Yet, can you know me, or experience me without becoming me?

I am the seeker and the sought.And yet no one knows what it is they yearn for. I touch the lives of many and bring change to few. I am the unknown, I confuse, bewilder and bewitch those who don't understand,experience or know. I bring out anger in those who want to know me and don't know how to connect. I am labelled aloof, afraid to commit myself to a positive answer, when there is none that I can provide. I bring fear to those who cling and yet it is the clinging that provides the distancing. The anger is there fear. The attempt to control, manipulate and blackmail are the only tools they know. It's a funny kind of sad, to have it all, one must let release all. let it go, and just allow.

For those that just accept without question, there are laughter, tears and love that flows without restriction. Those that accept have all, those who want, have none.

So many mistake Being Love for the emotion love.. Where there is emotion, there can't be love. Love becomes an illusion.

I have no answers, I am the weakest link, Goodbye......

Subject: Re: The illusion

From: ejLight@Light-Mission.org (E.J.)

Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 16:20:10 GMT

Greetings Sharnanda, you wrote: ->Just sharing my morning thoughts, ->The question was raised, who am I.....

Thank you for your morning Sharing. Yes, a Key question in our Awakening is that we must ask ourself "Who Am I ?" As you so aptly Pointed out, the *I* is nothing more than the projecting of our conditioned notions and the conditioned notions that others project onto us. An Illusion, as it were, for it is not the True Nature we ARE. It is quite the Shock when we Realize that we simply ARE, and nothing in particular. That our seeming Identity is all a mental construct, and therefore not Real. When we Truly Look into the Mirror of Truth at our arising and falling conditioned thoughts, as you said, we are nothing but a memory even to ourself. Memory being impermanent and quite transient, there is very little to cling to. When we *think* we are this or that, we miss the Point that we simply ARE our True Nature and can only BE that. Hence, "I AM" or "I AM THAT". That is the instantaneous easy part, the hard part is letting enough conditioned notions go the Realize/Recognize THAT True Nature we ARE and must BE.

~ Mindful Attention ~

It's just the mind doing what mind does being the mind

Though we think that thoughts are of a different kind,

When the mind is Still mind can Focus without thought

Without the arising of what's been seen/heard/taught.

The Key is to Still the mind of all of the thought chatter

Another Key is Understand the mind what is the matter,

We can not control the ego it can only be suppressed

Seeing it's very foundation is what must be addressed.

For it is the Causes of our Suffering that we must let go

As we do this what we find is that there is no more ego,

For it is The Grand Trickster who is up to his old Game

Though the players and rules change it is all the same.

An intentional non-distracted non-directed non-involved

Total Open Honest Mindful Attention must be Evolved,

Mental Stillness allowing Focus IN/AS an Apperception

Which is the Looking without the intention of reception.

Do not complicate what's simple or put legs on a snake

When one IS AS the Present Moment what is at stake,

Awakening is BEing the True Nature we Naturally ARE

A Silent Total Open Honest Awareness is never too far.

When we let go of the conditioned notions we Realize

Stillness is our natural state so nothing can Mesmerize,

Much like our state of BEing as before we were defiled

With conditioned notions by a Blinded world gone wild.

Focus not on any given *thing* but rather anew Totality

Open Honest Aware Attention to What-IS Truth/Reality,

Not guilt nor seeming human nature nor luck makes it so

Freedom is just another word for nothing else left to let go.

We don't have to let go of ALL the notions just toxic stuff

Only those Causes of our Suffering will surely be enough,

The very Dreamer is as much of an Illusion as the Dream

For the so called human nature is never what it may seem.

2001 - Yogajyotii

Subject: Re: reality?

From: ejLight@Light-Mission.org (E.J.)

Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 01:30:54 GMT

Greetings Community,

It has been asked: ->If everything and everyone comes from and returns to an ocean of ->energy, what do you think is more real or less real in comparison to ->that ocean? (which part of a circle is more real or less real in ->comparison to the whole circle?)

There is no "returns", as one can not step into the same water in a flowing river more than once. As there is an Evolution to manifested form, so too is there an Involution as that form. Though indeed form returns to it's natural elements through Entropy, the Involution of that form is Eternal and actually quite Infinite. It is all Real, nothing moreso or less than the other, it is our attachment to any part of it that is an Illusion. Reality IS What-IS, being quite impermanent and transient we fool ourself by *thinking* that we can cling to it or arrogantly *think* we can "think" about it. Reality is not in thoughts or beliefs or opinions of such, but rather in BEing Reality AS it IS. The "ocean", as the "circle", is ever flowing anew, as the ever anew Eternal Infinite Reality. Which can be nowhere other that this very instant Present Moment. The Whole IS it's seeming Parts, so a given part can be no greater or less than any other part otherwise it would be something other than the Whole.

Anyone else like to address the query ?

Subject: The latest

From: Sharlene <Sharlene@Light-Mission.org>

Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:58:03 -0700

Good evening folks, Didn't have to much to say as of late. between babysitting, housesitting, dogsitting and painting, life just seemed to be what I was doing, and who I was with. No time for much other than that, even thoughts. So it's a great time to live in the moment, there is no choice. : )

Dad went into the hospital last night, they aren't sure if it's pneumonia,emphysema or a bacterial infection. His normal stint of prednesone (?) just didn't do it this time. He's on oxygen, antibiotics and other drugs. Who knows where this will lie in the scheme of things.

Once again the Brother is drying out. Going to try and make it back to work next week. There is a drug out offered to him for taking away the craving. Apparently it really works, and if you do drink, it takes away the high also. It's been proved for drugs and alcohol and now is being tested for smokers. One can stay on it for a year if the need arises. I am not sure what the outcome of this will be either. Time will tell.

I had a good chuckle this morning, I met my children's Father's new lady. The drama was awesome. They are giving me tomorrow off as they are staying at my daughter's place. Gee, I guess they don't want my company. Wonder why? Guess it could be we don't talk the same language. Or he is nervous I may open my mouth. I liked her, maybe that was what scared him.

Anyway, that's things in a nutshell for now. I wonder how much more I can fit in? lol

blessings and love to all, Happy summer, Sharlene.

PS, if anyone has any spare sunshine, please send, ASAP, I will cover postage and handling,

Subject: Re: The latest

From: ejLight@Light-Mission.org (E.J.)

Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 03:49:39 GMT

Greetings Sharlene, you wrote: ->if anyone has any spare sunshine, please send, ASAP, I will cover postage ->and handling,

Sunshine mill is on the blink, so we have to make our own sunshine by BEing SunShine {8-> There are no bad days, just some better than others. Thank you for offering the nut shell, but where is the nut ? I wonder.....

Subject: Inner Teacher ?

From: ejLight@Light-Mission.org (E.J.)

Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 05:05:39 GMT

Greetings Community,

Inner Teacher. Yes, as Siddhartha said, we must "be a lamp unto yourself". Problem is that we can not be Lamps unto ourself UNTIL we Clean the Lamp of conditioned notions. Until we have let go of our dearly beloved conditioned ideas and images and meanings and notions that Veil our very True Nature (Lamp), our seeming inner teacher is nothing more than our imaginings and conceptualizations and projections. This so called seeming inner guidance will change nothing, yet perhaps modify us a bit. Real Change comes from a Whack on the head, from someone or something Pointing to where we can glean some Real Insight that is otherwise beyond our limited conditioned thinking. True, the Real Change wells up from WithIN but only after Silencing the mental chatter of our conditioned thoughts. Sleeping can not change Sleeping, as the Grand Trickster will not change the Grand Trickster. We have to consider some Pointing outside of our conditioned modus operandi. This is in the World Scriptures and uttered by Wise Sages. Problem is that we are afraid to Openly and Honestly Look. We are afraid that our beloved seeming inner guru is the Grand Trickster and we do not want to Realize/Recognize this. We are afraid of the Reflection we will see in the Mirror of Truth.

We build this elaborate system of beliefs and concepts and fantasize that there is some Divine Guidance in our inner revelations. Revelations that we ourselves contrived, though too fearful to admit it even to ourself. This is why it is said that our world is of our own creation, and thereby an Illusion. Not that the world is an Illusion but rather how we perceive it is the Illusion. Legends in our own mind. Feeble losers at a Game that we devised. Always a step ahead and a step behind, ourself.

~ The Grand Secret ~

The conceptual have nots and haves do so conflict

With a conditioned programmed phenomenal derelict,

And yet a conditioning and programming does addict

Clinging to the phenomenal notion we mentally depict.

Our fashioning of the Chains is a symptom of Insanity

Whose Chains are the loss of our conditioned Identity,

Though controlled yet there may be Hope for mortality

When we pluck it out and Dwell IN/AS Eternal Infinity.

But beware of the Finger so as not to get it too close

If too close to the eye can impinged by pain verbose,

So Blinded by the very mind that we use as a Lance

That could very well Point to where we could Dance.

Why do you plan for this it must be made of alabaster

In all your articulation lover is thief you court disaster,

We must take care with all due force as an obsession

But in that Understanding there can be no destination.

Know the mind most completely and the tricks it plays

Embrace it's very workings AS all it's nights and days,

So what we think is an accumulated Dualistic delusion

There can't be single concentration as all is confusion.

The Grand Secret always Hidden in the open this day

But we can't see the Forest to many trees in the Way,

So look around do you not see the writing on the wall

Telling of the tale conditionings plan for your very Fall.

In the state of Sleeping there can not be any change

Just beguiled by appearance as all is most deranged,

Though stagnant True Nature never changes as well

Just as waisted incarnation in the very depths of Hell.

It's all in the mind attached to figment of Imaginations

Let go of the mental Illusion it is your very Damnation,

When you let the mind have it's way it's your Disaster

Just let go of those Grand Illusions you Awaken faster.

-- Yogajyotii

Subject: T-Shirt Project Update

From: ejLight@Light-Mission.org (E.J.)

Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 14:46:06 GMT

Greetings Community,

Another Wondrous day has dawned on the Mission Of Light Retreat Center. Our Dear Friend and long time supporter of Light Mission Rhonda Selby and her significant other Carl has offered to donate 50+ t-shirts that will be imprinted with the Mission Of Light Retreat Center design/advertisement (T-Shirt fundraising Project coordinated by Sharlene and Marion). This will get the T-Shirt Project underway. So hopefully we will have t-shirts to sell as fundraising for the Retreat Center. We will let you know when you can order your's {8->

Thank you so much Rhonda and Carl, and of course Sharlene and Marion.

There is a lot more to do and a lot more support needed Dear Friends, in order to Actualize this Retreat Center. It will only come into BEing as concerned sincere people Join together to *Make It Happen*, as it will not simply occur all by itself.

The main contact people are:

Lois "Lois Doehler" <ldoehler@kermode.net>

Sharlene "Sharlene" <Sharlene@Light-Mission.org>

Pam "Pam Coupe" <Pam@Mission-Of-Light-Retreat-Center.org>

E.J. "E.J." <ejLight@Light-Mission.or>

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