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Subject: Learning to be Silent.....

From: "E.J." <ejLight@Light-Mission.org> Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 11:22:52 -0700

Greetings Meditative Community,

"The pupils of the Tendai school used to study meditation before Zen entered Japan. Four of them who were intimate friends promised one another to observe seven days of silence. On the first day all were silent.

"Their meditation had begun auspiciously, but when night came and the oil lamps were growing dim one of the pupils could not help exclaiming to a servant: "Fix those lamps."

"The second pupil was surprised to hear the first one talk. "We are not supposed to say a word," he remarked. "You two are stupid. Why did you talk?" asked the third.

"I am the only one who has not talked," concluded the fourth pupil."

-- from Zen Flesh, Zen Bones (compiled by Paul Reps)

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Subject: (fwd) Update John

From: "E.J." <ejLight@Light-Mission.org> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 06:21:58 -0700

On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 09:45:29 +0200 (CEST), Cyrille ANDRIEU <cyrille.simone.andrieu@wanadoo.fr> wrote:

Greetings E.J.

Hopefully this mail will arrive, I keep on getting return to sender stuff.

My father passed away last saturday night & yesterday wednesday was the funeral day. I was in Shanghai on Sunday & back on Tuesday & when I came back my brother announced that our dad passed away.

The next day, Wednesday(the funeral day), I was talking over SKYPE to my family & firends when my young japanese sister in law, all over a sudden had a grudge over me & decided to leave the house leaving the meal half undone. I told her "please don't do that, my brother is sick & he doesn't need that extra stress. Whatever I did to hurt you (which I still don't know what?) I'm sorry, I only wish a nice harmonious relationship between us". She still left the house. The rest of the evening & night John was hurting & sick & I couldn't do much. This morning Thursday, we had to take him to the hospital for a medical drip & they wanted to hospitalise him, he said not today, maybe next week if I'm not well. So he's back home.

Namaste,

Simone

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Subject: Re: (fwd) Update John

From: "E.J." <ejLight@Light-Mission.org> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 06:43:10 -0700

->On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 06:21:58 -0700, you wrote: ->On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 09:45:29 +0200, Cyrille ANDRIEU -><cyrille.simone.andrieu@wanadoo.fr> wrote: -> ->Greetings E.J.

Greetings Simone,

->Hopefully this mail will arrive, I keep on getting return to sender stuff.

Must be the servers over there.

->My father passed away last saturday night & yesterday wednesday was the funeral day. ->I was in Shanghai on Sunday & back on Tuesday & when I came back my brother announced that our dad passed away.

"Waves change; the ocean continues. Every death opens a new door - so change your sadness to celebration"

-- Sri Rajneesh (later known as Osho)

->The next day, Wednesday(the funeral day), I was talking over SKYPE to my family & firends when my young japanese sister in law, all over a sudden had a grudge over me & decided to leave the house leaving the meal half undone. I told her "please don't do that, my brother is sick & he doesn't need that extra stress. Whatever I did to hurt you (which I still don't know what?) I'm sorry, I only wish a nice harmonious relationship between us". She still left the house. The rest of the evening & night John was hurting & sick & I couldn't do much. This morning Thursday, we had to take him to the hospital for a medical drip & they wanted to hospitalise him, he said not today, maybe next week if I'm not well. So he's back home.

Thank you for the update. Everyone is doing what they can, still working on him. John has a tough mountain to climb, but we are all pulling for him.

->Namaste, -> ->Simone

Namaste, ej

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Subject: Re: (fwd) Update John

From: Cyrille ANDRIEU <cyrille.simone.andrieu@wanadoo.fr> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 05:34:29 +0200 (CEST)

Greetings E.J,

Thanks to all the Healers out there to continue for my brother, sure appreciate it in this time of need. He has water in his stomach & elsewhere I guess? What to do? All gave up. NOT ME. Maybe I'm crazzy? What do you & your healers think? I guess you can feel

Please let me know

Neither I nor my brothers could go to France for the funeral so, it was myhusband & friends who did it. Now my mother must be tired.

namaste Simone

Greetings E.J.

Well today John seems better but still weak. The doctor will come to the house to check him & decide if he needs a medical drip or not? But since he doesn't eat much he might need one like yesterday.

Who knows maybe he'll be granted a miracle? That's what I'm hoping for. Maybe God is testing my dose of faith in HIM?

Namaste,

Simone

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Subject: Re: (fwd) Update John

From: "E.J." <ejLight@Light-Mission.org> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 22:13:18 -0700

->On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 05:34:29 +0200 (), you wrote: ->Greetings E.J,

Greetings Simone,

->Thanks to all the Healers out there to continue for my brother, sure appreciate it in this time of need. He has water in his stomach & elsewhere I guess? What to do? All gave up. NOT ME. Maybe I'm crazzy? What do you & your healers think? I guess you can feel -> ->Please let me know

I can not recall anything about such a condition. Maybe others here have and can tell the rest of us.

->Neither I nor my brothers could go to France for the funeral so, it was myhusband & friends who did it. Now my mother must be tired.

Circumstances always prevail. I am sure your husband took care of everything properly though.

->Well today John seems better but still weak. The doctor will come to the house to check him & decide if he needs a medical drip or not? But since he doesn't eat much he might need one like yesterday.

Yes he has to keep getting nourishment into his body. Does not matter which way, drip or solid, it has to be put into the system.

->Who knows maybe he'll be granted a miracle? That's what I'm hoping for. Maybe God is testing my dose of faith in HIM?

We are all hoping for it.

->Namaste, -> ->Simone

Namaste, ej

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Subject: Present and Coming Times.....

From: "E.J." <ejLight@Light-Mission.org> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 11:27:44 -0700

Greetings CitiZENry,

"Fortunate is the man who knows how to read the signs of his times, for that man shall escape many misfortunes, or at least be prepared to understand the blow.

"Then the earth no longer stands unshaken... all voices of the gods will of necessity be silenced and dumb; the fruits of the earth will rot; the soil will turn barren, and the very air will rot; will sicken in sullen stagnation. After this manner will old age come upon the world.

"And so the gods will depart from mankind - a grievous thing! - and only evil angels will remain, who will mingle with men, and drive the poor wretches by main force into all manner of reckless crime, into wars, and robberies, and frauds, and all things hostile to the nature of the soul... Darkness will be preferred to light, and death will be thought more profitable than life... the pious will be deemed insane, and the impious wise; the madman will be thought a brave man, and the wicked will be esteemed as good."

-- Hermetic text, Asc III (150-270 A.D.)

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Subject: UPDATE JOHN.

From: Cyrille ANDRIEU <cyrille.simone.andrieu@wanadoo.fr> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 10:41:24 +0200 (CEST)

Greetings E.J

John is weak & they are talking about bringing him back to hospital. His stomach is filling with water, so he's unncomfortable. HELP PLEASE. I don't know what to do anymore?

Namaste,

Simone

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Subject: Re: UPDATE JOHN.

From: "E.J." <ejLight@Light-Mission.org> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 11:54:06 -0700

->On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 10:41:24 +0200 (), you wrote: -> ->Greetings E.J

Greetings Simone,

->John is weak & they are talking about bringing him back to hospital. His stomach is filling with water, so he's unncomfortable. HELP PLEASE. I don't know what to do anymore?

Thank you for the update. Surely you know that everyone both here and abroad are doing whatever they can to help John. Life is not always what we might deem 'fair', but it is always life being life. For that it is something to be respected, not feared or regretted or even clung to. We do what we can do and accept what we can not do, and understand the difference. We are but visitors here, so we take what we need and give back what we can, then be on our way. It is all a Dance of reflections and shadows, without origin or destination. What-IS Present is all there IS, enjoy it while it IS and whatever will BE will BE. And a positive attitude about IT will do no harm. Help John understand this Dear Friend.

->Namaste, -> ->Simone

Namaste, ej

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Subject: Re: UPDATE JOHN.

From: Cyrille ANDRIEU <cyrille.simone.andrieu@wanadoo.fr> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 08:38:05 +0200 (CEST)

Greetings E.J,

> Message du 12/04/10 20:55 > > Thank you for the update. Surely you know that everyone both here and > abroad are doing whatever they can to help John.

Yes, I know & I'm very grateful for all the help. Please forgive me, I'm quite emotional at times. It's not easy to see someone degrading. Just reminds me of my father & I don't want to be negative but........ Water is acumalating in the stomach, if it goes to the brain than too late......... They say if it get's bad to call an ambulance, the thing is I don't know how bad before I have to call one & all this seem negative so do I discard it from my mind? I have to be positive.

> we might deem 'fair', but it is always life being life. For that it is > something to be respected, not feared or regretted or even clung to. We do > what we can do and accept what we can not do, and understand the > difference. We are but visitors here, so we take what we need and give > back what we can, then be on our way. It is all a Dance of reflections and > shadows, without origin or destination. What-IS Present is all there IS, > enjoy it while it IS and whatever will BE will BE. And a positive attitude > about IT will do no harm. Help John understand this Dear Friend.

Yes, I'll try.

Thank you for your advice much appreciated. Namaste,

Simone

Today, Wednesday 14th. John hardly ate, anyway once a week the doctor will come for a med. drip & it's today. But I'm doing my best to be positive.

Yesterday, we went to the hospital, for a check up & a med.drip. The doctor suggested for him to stay in the hospital, he said he prefered to go back home. So here's where he is now. They said if things got worse to call the ambulance. So ........

Namaste

Simone

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Subject: Re: UPDATE JOHN.

From: "E.J." <ejLight@Light-Mission.org> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 06:58:45 -0700

->On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 08:38:05 +0200 (), you wrote: -> ->Greetings E.J,

Yes Greetings Simone,

->> > Thank you for the update. Surely you know that everyone both here and ->> abroad are doing whatever they can to help John. -> ->Yes, I know & I'm very grateful for all the help. Please forgive me, I'm quite emotional at times. It's not easy to see someone degrading. Just reminds me of my father & I don't want to be negative but........ ->Water is acumalating in the stomach, if it goes to the brain than too late......... ->They say if it get's bad to call an ambulance, the thing is I don't know how bad before I have to call one & all this seem negative so do I discard it from my mind? I have to be positive.

Everyone understands your situation. I would say that clarity of thinking is key here. Not all of life is positive, much is negative, so we must be ready to accept that. No we do not blank it out, we look at it clearly so it does not get to us and make us unbalanced or unfocused. But it is usually critical that we remain as positive as possible, always looking for the silver lining in the sow's purse (figuratively speaking). Helps keep us balanced and focused. I would say that at this time John needs as much stability and clear headedness around him as possible. Someone who can keep the bigger picture in mind. Seems like he would look to you for that. Ask the doctors for information as to how bad is bad enough to call an ambulance. Ask them for a little clarity too.

->> we might deem 'fair', but it is always life being life. For that it is ->> something to be respected, not feared or regretted or even clung to. We do ->> what we can do and accept what we can not do, and understand the ->> difference. We are but visitors here, so we take what we need and give ->> back what we can, then be on our way. It is all a Dance of reflections and ->> shadows, without origin or destination. What-IS Present is all there IS, ->> enjoy it while it IS and whatever will BE will BE. And a positive attitude ->> about IT will do no harm. Help John understand this Dear Friend. -> ->Yes, I'll try. -> ->Thank you for your advice much appreciated. -> ->Today, Wednesday 14th. John hardly ate, anyway once a week the doctor will come for a med. drip & it's today. But I'm doing my best to be positive.

Thank you for these updates. The regular doctor visits should help. Yes surely it is not easy to stay positive and cheerful in such trying times, our hearts go out to you.

->Yesterday, we went to the hospital, for a check up & a med.drip. The doctor suggested for him to stay in the hospital, he said he prefered to go back home. So here's where he is now. They said if things got worse to call the ambulance. So ........

I am sure he is sick of the hospital. After what he has gone through there I would say that anyone would opt to stay home rather than go back to the hospital.

->Namaste -> ->Simone

Namaste Dear Friend, ej

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Subject: BE The Tool.....

From: "E.J." <ejLight@Light-Mission.org> Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 15:22:31 -0700

"It's in Understanding of What-IS Truth Inclusive of All deprived from Youth, Importance is just a form of Regression Singularity is just another Possession.

"If All Is One who'll choose what Choices Who'll create and rearrange the Voices, One or Two the seeming mixture'll Fool Whether Whole or Total BE the Tool."

Svaha!

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Subject: Nada.....

From: "E.J." <ejLight@Light-Mission.org> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 21:43:10 -0700

"When I attained Absolute Perfect Enlightenment, I attained absolutely nothing. That is why it is called Absolute Perfect Enlightenment."

-- from The Diamond Sutra

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Subject: (fwd) UPDATE JOHN

From: "E.J." <ejLight@Light-Mission.org> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 17:55:54 -0700

On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 01:33:31 +0200 (), Cyrille ANDRIEU <cyrille.simone.andrieu@wanadoo.fr> wrote:

Greetings E.J,

Yesterday John went back to the hospital because he was too weak to walk, since he couldn't eat much, thus lacking of nutrients.

We wanted him to get a blood transfusion but the hospital refused saying that he has enough blood but the problem is probably his illness spreading. I think it's more profitable (business) than anything else for the hospital. So actually, he's having medical drip & as soon as he's better we'll get him out & find a place where they'll accept to do that (blood transfusion).

So, as you said I'll look for that "silver lining".

Namaste,

Simone

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Subject: Re: (fwd) UPDATE JOHN

From: "E.J." <ejLight@Light-Mission.org> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 19:12:19 -0700

->On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 01:33:31 +0200 (), Cyrille ANDRIEU -><cyrille.simone.andrieu@wanadoo.fr> wrote: -> ->Greetings E.J,

Greetings Simone,

->Yesterday John went back to the hospital because he was too weak to walk, ->since he couldn't eat much, thus lacking of nutrients.

Good to hear from you. Thank you for the update. Figured you were pretty busy with John's care. Yes the hospital can put the stuff needed directly into the veins. Many times better than what we can do on our own.

->We wanted him to get a blood transfusion but the hospital refused saying ->that he has enough blood but the problem is probably his illness spreading. ->I think it's more profitable (business) than anything else for the ->hospital. So actually, he's having medical drip & as soon as he's better ->we'll get him out & find a place where they'll accept to do that (blood ->transfusion).

Yes that is strange that they do not want to entertain the idea of a blood transfusion. Or at least filter the blood, so as to remove any evil-doers therein.

->So, as you said I'll look for that "silver lining".

Does no good to look at the down side so why not the potential. Who knows, miracles come in many varied shapes and sizes.

->Namaste, -> ->Simone

Namaste, ej

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Subject: Re: (fwd) UPDATE JOHN

From: Sharlene <sharnanda@Light-Mission.org> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 19:55:40 -0700

> Yes that is strange that they do not want to entertain the idea of a >blood transfusion. Or at least filter the blood, so as to remove any >evil-doers therein.

Not that I am suggesting anything here, but rather sharing through experience. When we went through the choices of transfusion or no transfusion, one of the reasons it was decided against, was the fact that foreign blood puts a strain on an already over worked immune system. Not only does it have to fight the dis-ease, the lack of nourishment, it would now have to interact to the strange blood. Therefore over taxing an already over taxed body and immune system.

Hope this helps somewhat.

Sending love and energy Sharlene

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Subject: Re: (fwd) UPDATE JOHN

From: "E.J." <ejLight@Light-Mission.org> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 21:11:14 -0700

Thanks Sharlene, good information. Good to see your input.

->On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 19:55:40 -0700, you wrote: -> ->> Yes that is strange that they do not want to entertain the idea of a ->>blood transfusion. Or at least filter the blood, so as to remove any ->>evil-doers therein. -> ->Not that I am suggesting anything here, but rather sharing through experience. ->When we went through the choices of transfusion or no transfusion, one of ->the reasons it was decided against, was the fact that foreign blood ->puts a strain ->on an already over worked immune system. Not only does it have to fight the ->dis-ease, the lack of nourishment, it would now have to interact to ->the strange blood. ->Therefore over taxing an already over taxed body and immune system. -> ->Hope this helps somewhat. -> ->Sending love and energy ->Sharlene

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Subject: Re: (fwd) UPDATE JOHN

From: Cyrille ANDRIEU <cyrille.simone.andrieu@wanadoo.fr> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 05:02:18 +0200 (CEST)

Greetings E.J & Sharlene,

Well I always thought that blood transfusion can help a person get back their life force energy in no time, on condition of course, that the foreign blood has been filtered & tested cleared from any "evil-doers therein", meaning sickness . But the negative energies attached, if any, can only be removed through some healers afterwards? It's my guess.

I say this because, many years back I had a major transfusion after child birth caused through hemorrage. I was considered clinically dead, had a NDE & when I came back they gave me a transfusion & little by little I felt life coming back. Only, I felt that foreign blood wasn't part of me & it took me a few weeks before "I FELT" it became "my blood". But at that time I was young without sickness. So in the case of John it's another matter. The Idea of a safe transfusion is to give him a boost & be able to eat in order to fight his illness, but on the contrary if it'll give him exttra "strain on an already over worked immune system" than what is the right solution? For the time being it's a guessing game for us, since doctors just give him medical drips & his stomach is bloated up with liquid. John didn't want much food in him probably because he was worried about the liquid in his stomach. We have to help him sit/stand up. It's like a vicious circle, don't eat or drink, stomach flattens, eat drink, it gets bloated.

The accupuncture lady suggested transfusion. So what's the right choice? I really don't know?

Namaste,

Simone

> Message du 25/04/10 05:05 > De : "Sharlene" > A : "Let There Be Light -- Always In All Ways" > Copie à : > Objet : Re: (fwd) UPDATE JOHN > > > > > Yes that is strange that they do not want to entertain the idea of a > >blood transfusion. Or at least filter the blood, so as to remove any > >evil-doers therein. >

> Not that I am suggesting anything here, but rather sharing through experience. > When we went through the choices of transfusion or no transfusion, one of > the reasons it was decided against, was the fact that foreign blood > puts a strain > on an already over worked immune system. Not only does it have to fight the > dis-ease, the lack of nourishment, it would now have to interact to > the strange blood. > Therefore over taxing an already over taxed body and immune system. > > Hope this helps somewhat. > > Sending love and energy > Sharlene

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Subject: Re: (fwd) UPDATE JOHN

From: Sharlene <sharnanda@Light-Mission.org> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 06:50:54 -0700

you wrote: >Greetings E.J & Sharlene,

Good morning Simone.

>Well I always thought that blood transfusion can help a person get >back their life force energy

Like with any form of medical treatment, there is a right time and a wrong time. Although it has been proven to help in many ways, it is not always beneficial for the recipient.

In many cases now, before surgery, they are extracting blood from the person in case the need for a transfusion arises. They have found that using the recipients own blood proves to work far better than that of anyone else. There is less work on the body for acceptance. As with any treatment, the body has to work over time to process whatever is put in or taken out.

> But the negative energies attached, if any, can only be removed > through some healers afterwards? It's my guess.

I am not sure but I would think that negative energy in blood would be minimal due to the fact that it is given with the right intention, which is help others. Anything that is given through love can not contain to much negative energy. But that is just my opinion.

>I say this because, many years back I had a major transfusion after >child birth caused through hemorrage. I was considered clinically >dead, had a NDE & when I came back they gave me a transfusion & >little by little I felt life coming back.

Yes, in certain circumstances where is a large blood loss, it can be beneficial. With my daughter and her loss of blood, it was decided no, with all her body was fighting already, they said it would do more harm than good, and allowed her body to repair itself in its own time, along with iron shots and other supplements.

> The Idea of a safe transfusion is to give him a boost & be able to > eat in order to fight his illness, but on the contrary if it'll > give him exttra "strain on an already over worked immune system" > than what is the right solution?

Sometimes, sorry to say, there is no pat answers for some questions. And sometimes there is no right solution. Only acceptance of what is and allow the body to handle things on its own. Perhaps a rest from treatments and medication can allow the body to rest and recoup some of its own energy to fight. If it so chooses.

We, as outsiders, can only guess whats right for someone else. And most of the time we can be wrong. What does John say? He is the one that has the inside scoop on what the body wants or needs. If he doesn't want food or drink,, then his body is telling him not to eat or drink at that point, but that could change within a couple of hours or a day or two.

As family, we hate to sit and watch our loved suffer and go through illness of any kind. We hate to think of life without them with us. So we try everything we can to keep them with us longer in spite of what they are going through. The biggest gift we can give them, is to allow them to make the choices for themselves. To become the listener, the hand holder, rather than being the one in charge, or the one that thinks they have choices to make for their best interests.

When my parents were both ill, we lost Mom first, which was a total surprise. I told Dad in joking that he couldn't go for at least 3 months because it would make the estate thing more complicated for me. Then 3 months later, almost to the day, he asked me if it was okay for him to go yet. I had totally forgotten I had said that. So I said yes, he could go when he was ready. Mom passed Aug 23, and he left us Nov 28 of the same year. His biggest desire to was to die at home and I felt blessed to be there with him.

So sometimes they hang on and fight because they know its what we want. But we really need to listen to them. They know what they want and what they need.

Healing comes in many forms. Not just in a physical sense, but of emotional, mental and spiritual.

>For the time being it's a guessing game for us, since doctors just >give him medical drips & his stomach is bloated up with >liquid. John didn't want much food in him probably because he was >worried about the liquid in his stomach.

Sounds like a guessing game. Perhaps instead of guessing, ask John what he wants and needs.

>The accupuncture lady suggested transfusion. So what's the right >choice? I really don't know?

As I suggested, Ask John what he wants. He knows best whats right for him.

I don't meant to sound cold and harsh, I can relate to what you are going through quite well. I lost 4 people in my family within a 2 year span, and 3 very good friends. Acceptance was the hardest part along with allowing them their own choices. The day Mom passed, the Docs came out and asked me what they should do now. and I had to tell them to stop working on her and just allow her to do what she must do. That choice gave me and my one brother a few moments with her before she passed. We had a chance to tell her we loved her and we would miss her. And to tell her she was free to go without worry because Dad and the ill brother would be taken care of to the best of my ability. The moment she passed was totally mind blowing. The whole room was filled with a glow, it was peaceful, healing and everything seemed to be filled with this overpowering sense of love and tranquility. It was liked being hugged from the inside while being wrapped in a blanket of warmth from the outside. My brother looked at me with wonder on his face and said, there is no reason to mourn, is there? I had to agree.

Forgive my ramble, I sometimes get carried away with my words. No matter what you choose to do, the only thing I ask, is for you to ask John what it is he wants. Then whatever it is, there is no room for guilt or regret.

Ask the powers that be to send you the energy that you need to accept whatever it is he chooses.

And peace and love be with you each moment of every day. Sharlene

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